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Having stopped for water at Rangton Tank Northeast Frontier Railway DHR NG (2ft) 0-4-0ST B 802 (NBL 23678 1927) negotiates a typical 90-degree curve on a gradient of 1 in 30; 4.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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The builder's plate of Northeast Frontier Railway DHR 0-4-0ST B 802 (NBL 23678/1927), Sonada; 4.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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The driver of Northeast Frontier Railway DHR NG (2ft) 0-4-0ST B 802 (NBL 23678/1927) poses besied his engine as it takes water at Sonada. Meanwhile the coal breaker continues to break up fuel for the loco; 4.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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A rarely seen view of the small and basic cab of a Northeast Frontier Railway DHR 0-4-0ST as it pauses at Tindharia with a Darjeeling - Siliguri train. Locomotive B 793 (Baldwin 44913/1917); 5.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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Northeast Frontier Railway NG (2ft) 0-4-6ST B 795 (Tindharia 1919) halts at Tindharia for servicing before continuing it climb to the DHR's summit at Ghum. Note the large lumps of high-quality coal in the bunker on top of the water tank, illustrating why a coal breaker was employed on every engines; 5.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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Northeast Frontier Railway DHR NG (2ft) 0-4-0ST B 802 (NBL 23678/1927) negotiates a double s-bend above Kurseong; 4.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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The Northeast Frontier Railway NG (2ft) DHR includes two 'zig - zag' movements as a means of gaining height. Seen above 'Z' No.1 0-4-0ST B 802 (NBL 23678/1927) races along on a short stretch of level track; the coal-breaker is still hard at work while the two 'sandmen'enjoy a rest; 4.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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The coal breaker still labours away, but notice that with easy grades ahead, the two 'sandmen' have ceased their work; note the open sand box on the front buffer beam of Northeast Frontier Railway DHR 0-4-0ST B 802 (NBL 23678/1927); 4.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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The steam from Northeast Frontier Railway DHR NG (2ft) 0-4-0ST B 802 (NBL 23678/1927) picks out the coal breaker's hammer as it is about to descend and shatter another large lump of coal, as the train nears Santong water tank. Meanwhile the local young men indulge in the dangerous sport of jumping off the train, running alongside, then jumping back on! 5.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Darjeeling B802 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. By Darjeeling the clouds had cleared enough for the setting sun to side-light B802 (NBL 23678.1925) arriving at the terminus after its epic 7-hour journey. Today (March 2013), landslips have restricted the DHR to the Kurseong – Ghum – Darjeeling section only, but Indian Railways have said the entire route from New Jalpaiguri will be re-opened by the end of 2013. Let us hope they achieve that target! Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Ghum (near) B802 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. On both days of your scribe’s visit the summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) was covered with cloud. However, the mists cleared for a few moments to enable this shot, as B802 (NBL 23678.1925) nears the top of its climb. From Ghum the line descends, including the famous double-loop at Batasia, to reach Darjeeling. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Kurseong B802 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. With hooter constantly sounding B802 (NBL 23678.1925) slowly transits Kurseong “High Street”, with normal life going on all about and Siddique’s Boot Store about to get its daily shower of cinders!. One can imagine what Western Europe’s Health & Safety “industry”, might have to say about such a thing! Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Kurseong (above) B802 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. Beyond Kurseong the road and railway part immediate adjacency for a while, the former climbing quite sharply. Even so the DHR has a severe gradient and many reverse curves, so B802 (NBL 23678.1925) is working hard, as is the coal-man, but not on this occasion, the rail-sander. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Loop 1 B 802 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. B 802 (NBL 23678.1925) emerges from the forest that covered Loop 1, just above Sukna, with the morning train to Darjeeling. Landslides, a perennial problem for the DHR, caused Loop 1 to be abandoned in 1991, with replacement by a new, loop-less alignment. So, this picture can never be repeated. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Loop 1 (above) B 795 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other souces. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. Seen across the wooded valley, having negotiated Loop 1, B 795 (Tindharia 1919) climbs strongly away on its journey to the next stop, at Tindharia. Unusually, the train does not include the fourth, part-postal vehicle. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Sukna_B 782 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. By 1979 freight traffic over the DHR was scarce; in fact it ceased altogether in 1992/3. So, your scribe was lucky to witness southbound B 782 (SS 4561.1900) passing the outer home signal on the approach to Sukna crossing point (elev: 162m). Seemingly, the only apparent competition to the DHR was bicycles and tricycle rickshaws. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Sukna_B 795 & B 782 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. Sukna crossing point is situated on the plains just before the serious climbing begins. The morning train from New Jalpaiguri to Darjeeling, hauled by B 795 (Tindharia 1919), is being serviced, as is B 782 (SS 4561.1900), having just detached from a freight from the north. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Tindharia_B802 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. B802 (NBL 23678.1925) roars into Tindharia station (elev: 857m) with the morning train for Darjeeling. The B Class locos have a crew of five: the two riding the front put sand on the rails when necessary, there is a coal-man who spends the entire journey seated on the loco roof breaking coal into small pieces and a driver and fireman on the footplate. The gentleman standing on the engine’s roof was a “rider”. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_Loop 4_B802 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. Shortly after leaving Tindharia DHR trains gain more height by traversing Loop No. 4 which has long had the nickname “Agony Point”. The original sharp curve on a precipitous ledge was later eased but the loop still calls for a maximum effort. B802 (NBL 23678.1925) thunders round the loop with the coal-man furiously breaking coal in an effort to keep up with the boiler’s demand for steam. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_above Tindharia B795 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. Coming out of Loop 4, there is still heavy climbing to be done, to reach an intermediate watering point. B795 (Tindharia 1919) works hard on the gradient of 1 in 25 (4%). Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_arr Sonada B795 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. More climbing brings the DHR to Sonada (elev: 1990m), where the railway enters town, literally through the market place. B795 (Tindharia 1919) makes a smoky passage against an increasingly cloudy sky. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_dep Sonada B795 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. As with Kurseong, there is street running for the DHR through Sonada, where B795 (Tindharia 1919) makes slow progress past numerous restaurants’ barbeque fires. Just seen is the very old, but trusty, Land Rover, in which your scribe was doing his “chasing”. Happy days! Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_in Sonada Street B795 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. For a change, a “going-away” shot of B795 (Tindharia 1919), heading out of Sonada. The steep gradient at this point (1 in 30 – 3.33%) can be appreciated, as can the effort being put in by the loco. Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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India_NG 61cm_DHR_water stop above Tindharia B795 The Darjeeling Himalayan Railway (DHR) opened in July 1881. It ran north, 80kms, from Siliguri (elevation: 130m) to a summit at Ghum (elev: 2258m) before descending to Darjeeling (elev: 2200m). In 1962 the line was extended 8km south to New Jalpaiguri (elev: 100m), where it met the Northeast Frontier Railway metre gauge (since converted to broad gauge). The DHR is of 2 foot gauge (61cm) and climbs by means of a number of loops (spirals) and reverses; 90% of the route is curved, the smallest radius of which is 59 feet (18m) and the steepest gradient is 1 in 23 (4.35%). Since opening, services were mainly in the care of the B Class 0-4-0ST, 35 of which were delivered between 1880 and 1925; initially they came from Sharp Stewart, later from other sources. Nowadays four diesel locomotives handle most services over the line which in December 1999, received UNESCO World Heritage status. These pictures were taken on 4 and 5 December 1979. B795 (Tindharia 1919) takes water and is generally serviced before more hard climbing to Kurseong. The local wild monkeys had learned this is a good place to be seen as they are usually fed by passengers stretching their legs during the stop! Colour slide and scan Roger Griffiths. roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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Northeast Frontier Railway NG (2ft) DHR 0-4-0ST B 782 (Sharp Stewart 4561/1899) pauses near Sukna, when working a freight train, for the crew to eat their lunch! 5.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com

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Eighty years of history on the cab side of DHR NG (2ft) 0-4-0ST B 782. Built by Shar Stewart in 1899, a second plate tells of the locomotive's rebuilding forty years later at Tindharia Works, then inside the stencilled box at left is TDH 20.4.79, showing that after a further forty years it had left Tindharia Works on that date, following an overhaul. Later named MOUNTAINEER, B 782 is currently stored at Tindharia; 5.12.1979. Roger Griffiths roger.griffiths@hotmail.com