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| DB 51 80 89-90 307-5 WGSüg851, ex 10207 Bln (Credé 1937). Length 23.5 m. Built as government car, from 1945 for British armed forces (high commissioner Robertson), from 1951 to DB for the transport minister. It was also used during Queen Elizabeth II's visit in 1978 and could be rented for special trains. Rebuilt multiple times, new gangways and bogies, enabled for 200 km/h and painted in TEE colours. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 307-5 WGSüg851, ex 10207 Bln (Credé 1937). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 307-5 WGSüg851, ex 10207 Bln (Credé 1937). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 308-3 WGSüg851, ex 10208 Bln (Linke-Hofmann-Werke 1938). A view through the window into the salon. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 308-3 WGSüg851, ex 10208 Bln (Linke-Hofmann-Werke 1938). From 1945 used by the general secretary of the railway in the British occupation zone. Later used by the DB president, during Elizabeth II's visit 1965, for campaign trains of chancellors Kiesinger, Brandt and Schmidt. 2000 repainted to a livery as built (though keeping the various modifications by DB) and used in filming "Enemy of the Gates". Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 308-3 WGSüg851, ex 10208 Bln (Linke-Hofmann-Werke 1938). View on the MD 363 bogie for 200 km/h, installed by DB in the 1970s. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 308-3 WGSüg851, ex 10208 Bln (Linke-Hofmann-Werke 1938). Retro inscription applied for the 2000 movie "Enemy of the Gates". Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 308-3 WGSüg851, ex 10208 Bln (Linke-Hofmann-Werke 1938). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 308-3 WGSüg851, ex 10208 Bln (Linke-Hofmann-Werke 1938). After rebuilding the end looks similar to DB coaches of the 1950s/60s. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-92 530-0 WG4üe826 (Wegmann 1938). Originally an eight-compartment sleeping-car for government trains with a breakfast room. It went directly to the DB. In 1953 it was converted to a dancing car including a music room and train guard's office. In 1960 the ends were rebuilt to match modern passenger cars. In the 1970s new bogies MD 34 were installed and converted for 200 km/h in 1979. It was used together with the "Blauer Enzian" cars and is now exhibited together with them. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-92 530-0 WG4üe826 (Wegmann 1938). Looks quite modern from the end after lots of rebuilding. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-92 530-0 WG4üe826 (Wegmann 1938). A bit difficult to research the history with numerous conversions and number changes. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-92 530-0 WG4üe826 (Wegmann 1938). Not sure whether this style of writing DEUTSCHE BUNDESBAHN was accurate in any era. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
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DB 51 80 89-90 341-5 WGSüg851, ex 10241 Köl
(Credé 1937). One of four restaurant cars built for
government trains, this one was used in train "Asien" of
Hermann Göring. The dining rooms have long lengthwise tables. Rebuilt 1947 for Royal Corps of Transport including sleeping compartments. Rebult again by DB for trains of the federal president. 1960 equipped with new bogies MD 363. 1970 part of the train used by Willy Brandt to visit Willi Stoph in Erfurt. Last use 1978 during Elizabeth II's visit, then to Verkehrsmuseum Nürnberg. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 341-5 WGSüg851, ex SalonWR4üge 10241 Köl (Credé 1937). Retro inscription. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 341-5 WGSüg851, ex SalonWR4üge 10241 Köl (Credé 1937). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 341-5 WGSüg851, ex SalonWR4üge 10241 Köl (Credé 1937). The end of the car was rebuilt to match modern passenger cars. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 341-5 WGSüg851, ex SalonWR4üge 10241 Köl (Credé 1937). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 341-5 WGSüg851, ex SalonWR4üge 10241 Köl (Credé 1937). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-90 341-5 WGSüg851, ex SalonWR4üge 10241 Köl (Credé 1937). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| D-DB 51 80 17-92 030-8 Aüe032 ex 11701, built 1937 by Wegmann as SalPresse4ü 10251 Bln with Görlitz III bogies, originally including offices, sleeping compartments and a small kitchen. From 1945 used for United States Army Transportation Corps. 1953 rebuilt to first class coach A4üe 11701 and painted blue. After rebuilding this coach had one three-seat compartment, two six-seat compartments and four seven-seat compartments (with a seventh rotating seat in the middle). Historische Eisenbahn Frankfurt installed a small kitchen in the former 3-seat compartment. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| D-DB 51 80 17-92 030-8 Aüe032 ex 11701. From 1954 to 1959 this one was used in one of the most prestigious trains of the era, the F 55/56 "Blauer Enzian". As DB didn't have new series coaches yet, they composed the train of pre-war coaches. The 11701 was used together with refurbished first-class coaches, a restaurant car rebuilt from a 1928 Rheingold coach and the observation car 11700. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| D-DB 51 80 17-92 030-8 Aüe032 ex 11701. The RIC raster includes a lot of countries, but electric heating only works with 1000 V voltage. Note also that after installing MD36 bogies it is able to go up to 200 km/h. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| D-DB 51 80 17-92 030-8 Aüe032 ex 11701. It is painted steel blue as it was for the Blauer Enzian but carries the inscription "SalPresse4ü" from the time before 1953. Technically it is in the state of the 1970s with new bogies and rubber gangways. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| D-DB 51 80 17-92 030-8 Aüe032 ex 11701. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-85 922-8 Sal4üe036 ex AB4ü 11645 Nür. Originally AB4ü-38, rebuilt 1963 to a measuring car, 1983 to Verkehrsmuseum Nürnberg, 1992 rebuilt to a conference car. In 2013 repainted in a livery similar to its original state. The bogies have been replaced by Minden-Deutz and the ends modernized with rubber gangways and red rear lights. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-85 922-8 Sal4üe036. According to the sign in the window it is a salon-conference car built 1939, 25 seats, 160 km/h. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-85 922-8 Sal4üe036. Inscription with a kind of anachronistic designation (using the digit "4" had been dropped long before 12-digit numbers were introduced). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB observation car AB4üe 11700 = 51 80 89-53 901-0 rebuilt 1953 from a coach built 1938 for the train "Blauer Enzian". DB 181 201-5 (Krupp/AEG 1974), two-system locomotive for trains to France and Luxembourg. Preserved in the state of 1990, not operational. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-53 901-0 ex Sal4üe 11700. Observation car built as C4ü-38 19347, 1950 rebuilt to Salon4üe 10217, 1954 rebuilt again to AB4üe 11700. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
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DB 51 80 89-53 901-0 ex Sal4üe 11700. The Henschel-Wegmann
train was built 1935 for a fast connection between Berlin and
Dresden (1936 to 1939), then for internal transport of military
officers, at the end of the second world war as hospital train.
After another rebuild used in the prestigious train "Blauer Enzian"
Hamburg to München, which required two trainsets. The
observation car was built to match the Wegmann train together with
other coaches. Two cars of that set are preserved in Koblenz, the
Henschel-Wegmann train was scrapped. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-53 901-0 ex Sal4üe 11700. The original window arrangement of its time as a third class coach can still be seen; to make this first class, pairs of two compartments were joined to form large seven-seat compartments with a rotating seat in the middle. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-53 901-0 ex Sal4üe 11700. After complaints about the ride quality of the original bogies it was rebuilt with new Minden-Deutz bogies. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DB 51 80 89-53 901-0 ex Sal4üe 11700. Rebuilt with standard folding door. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DR 61 80 70-80 105-4 Salon289.1, built 1969 by Görlitz as a salon sleeping-car 60 50 50-40 105-0 for the GDR government. Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DR 61 80 70-80 105-4 Salon289.1 (Görlitz 1969). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DR 61 80 70-80 105-4 Salon289.1 (Görlitz 1969). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
| DR 61 80 70-80 105-4 Salon289.1 (Görlitz 1969). Koblenz-Lützel, 2020-10-03. |
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